and you know where the taxpayers are, james, i hate to tell you they're in your state, in new jersey, connecticut and in new york, and they're in california and illinois. a lot of places where democrats govern, because they have the most deductions at the federal level. >> well, as we've explained many times, the amount of money he can get from his tax rates on the rich, even if he got his buffet tax, it does nothing to solve the deficit problem. so, he knows eventually taxes are going to have to hit the middle class. a number of ways to do that, one is a vat tax, a carbon tax on energy and another is raising income rates on everyone, and if he can blame that on republicans, this might be the way to get na started. >> i'm going to have to disagree on the politics of what james says, dan. i think the president can't let that alternative minimum tax hit because the pressure from his own party and from senators up for reelection in 2014, the democrats, would be enormous. >> i kind of agree, james, i think that would be an achilles heel for the democrats, the third rail as we say, they don't want to